RS has made me the bitter person i am today! While Shell’s and BP’s dividend payments have remained stable YoY, ExxonMobil’s and Chevron’s dividends have risen. Very little difference between them. On a side note then, how does Shell 89 compare to everyone else's 91? Apparently a few reputable PNW tuners had to pull several degrees of timing on the same car when running Chev94 vs US 91/92. Are they the same? been getting mixed opinions. Techs I have talked to agree Shell V-Power is the better gasoline it appears to deliver a bit more power and the techs all said they run it most of the time. Shell 91 and chevron 94 are priced exactly the same....I think it's safe to say chevron is over compensating their octane rating. Loblaws, a.k.a. Shifting both vehicles to shell 91 In a week when their tanks are empty. The main contributors to this decrease were divestments (for example, in Argentina, Canada, Norway, Iraq, Malaysia and the UK). Chevron Supreme Plus. Its off of the Petro site. Which is best for our subies, shell 91 or chevron 94? Was considering giving Shell a try but is there really any point if I'm running strong on Chev 94? The benefit lies in the octane rating of 91. I'm getting confused here with contradicting theories. I don't have a cobb - so I go by butt dyno lol. No noises from under the hood. I always put Shell V-Power, if theres no Shell around, i manage to go at ESSO. I've heard claims by people that it does a better job that Petro Canada Ultra 94 but haven't read any detailed subject matter to that effect. It all comes out of the same refinery with different additives, the difference you'll see would be minute. 1 decade ago. It's pretty much the same. I use Shell most often. All parts of BC I've been to have Shell 91 with no ethanol. I'm having a hard time understanding how 91 octane of any type can consistently offer more performance than Chev 94.. Esso 91 (uses imperial gas which I’m pretty sure is the same as Mobil) was the worst for knocking. in Canada for example it is possible for premium gas (91 octane rating) to contain 5–10% ethanol. When I did this same experiment, I got even better mileage out of the 91 Shell. Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club: Thursday January 28, 2021 Myth: Premium is better because it does not contain ethanol. As for Costco 91. The manual calls for 93 or higher, but 91 is acceptable when higher is not available. Chevron Techron (Techroline) has long been considered the top cleaning additive in the industry. reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z. OH thank god. Last year after getting an e-tune on chevron 94 I tried a few tanks of shell 91 and did not notice a difference, but switched back to 94 (not sure exactly why, but I did). but having said that, often ethanol is added to petrol to reduce cost etc. Colborne. We don't get 93 around here. By using Shell Unleaded E10, which contains up to 10% ethanol, you can help to reduce your carbon footprint. Shell vs. Chevron: Which Should You Pick for Income and Growth? If you need a bump at the track, use a little Octane boost to make up the difference. As for Petro Canada, the 94 is actually 91+ additive/booster. I am using the cheapest, so I'm not sure if it makes a … I've always used Chev 94 in my vehicles, interested to see how people like shell gas though. 0 0. 91 got just over 400kms. Source(s): https://shrink.im/a91Jk. ** Shell V-Power® NiTRO+ provides unsurpassed protection against gunk to help improve engine performance. Actually, Shell V-Power is 91 octane in most of the western states. Chevron fuel contains Techron, ... Octane rating of 91 recommended for cars where the manufacturer recommends use of premium grade gasoline. What happens with fuel in the USA may have no relationship to fuel in Canada, and vice versa. Top Tier mean detergents higher than the government’s minimum requirement are used. I have best results with Chevron 91 with Techron and seems to be just fine. If they have Shell and ESSO almost everywhere on the planet, then you know its good quality. Otherwise follow the owners manual recommended octane. Maybe 91 with ethanol will offer more knock resistance. My feedback The difference between Shell and Chevron gasoline is not great but noticeable. Chevron has the same level of cleaner in ALL grades. Ultra 94 has 10% Ehtanol, I find I get noticeably worse mileage in my Lancer ralliart. Greenhouse gas emissions (GHGs) The direct greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from facilities we operate were 70 million tonnes on a CO 2-equivalent basis in 2019, down from 71 million tonnes of CO 2 equivalent in 2018. Save Share. Kansas: 87 89 91 Curious as to how WA's Shell 92 compares to our 91/94, since I pretty much only gas up there. Two common octane ratings are 87 and 91. Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS. Anyone know how it is? I will continue to run a tank of Shell premium with nitrogen when prices allow. For example I have a 91 ford escort that I use for a commuter car. Yeah they make those maps on gas with ethanol. Hows your car running? I thought u had sex with my wife. (It will run on 89 E-10 gets better mileage with 91 premium and comes close in cost/mpg. My stock car running Chevron 94 knocked on the dyno when building boost. I have been using when possible shell V-power, or other Ethanol free 91 octane gas. Just kinda sketched out about reliability and rhd. Yea I just can't really get 94 octane.... but there's a husky near by with 92 octane.... Just wondering if it's any better for detonation that shell/esso/ 91 octane.... iirc, rage2 did a comparison a long time ago and found out that husky/mohawk gas allowed him to run more boost than any other gas stations, even chevron. The main difference between 87 and 91 octane gas is just the additive that they add to it. When it comes to Chevron (with Techron) or Shell V-Power, they're both excellent. for a couple of cents more per liter at Chevron, you can get 94 gas with no ethanol added. Shell 91 is rumored to be better than Chevron 94. Just filled up on shell 91, $0.20 more than regular. The difference lies in the additives and detergents put in to the fuel. And how do you find rhd? Why is ethanol an effective octane booster. That info is on Shell's own website. There's a reason a lot of the GTR owners in Vancouver drive to Washington to fill their cars with US Chevron 92 (no ethanol) over Canadian Chevron 94. That'll be the tank my engine grenades. Our fuel isnt up to par with theirs. The knock threshold isn't higher but more consistent where as chevron was less stable under high load. I've been using chev 94 with the cobb stage 2 93 map for ages now, never had an issue. My old 08 2.5i had huge (for n/a) gains being e-tuned for chev 94, but that was coming from the stock 87+ map, and the turbo engines add a whole new element. Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS. Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net, Bill C-11 is in effect - Secure your connection with PIA's log-free VPN, http://www.revscene.net/forums/68154...dien-fuel.html, FAQs ? What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS! Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc. http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/...need-feedback/. Shell has ethanol, at least it does here in the northeast. Fact: many premium fuels these days, like Regular gas, also contain ethanol. but when i'm home i use shell because chevron 91 or 94 performs worse then us 92. and shell performs like us 92. Shell's quality standards is higher, and has better quality. Shell 91 (no ethanol) is better gasoline than any of the nationwide 94's which all use ethanol to achieve their octane level. So far, I've only used Chev 94 and it seems to run pretty well. I would never get my car tuned for 94 octane in Canada....cause its not 94, stick tuning your car on a 91. Just couldn't drive the car as hard and is probably why I saw an even bigger difference in mileage. Shell 91 or Chevron 94? When it comes to gas, you can choose between a lower octane gas or opt for a higher octane rating. 94 got me about 350kms to a tank (50L). Indiana: 87 89 93 Iowa: 87 89 91 Many stations will offer "Super Unleaded" 87 that contains 10% ethanol and a more expensive "Unleaded" 87 with no ethanol. But Shells' 91 is comparable (and a bit better?) I got some in coquitlam last and it definately seems like a bad batch. What’s up YouTube, welcome back to another video on Bret’s Garage. Gasoline is gasoline. I was actually thinking of going to Chevron today instead. David B. Lv 4. Hey guys, As some of you already know, about a year ago I moved from Georgia up to Alberta, Canada. Check the sticker on the pump. Owner's manual recommends premium.) Shell Vs Chevron. Anyone can confirm on chevron? Once you get into the tuning game it's a different story. Chevron Techron and Shell V Power are separate additives on top of the standard Top Tier level detergent. Questions, Answers, Octane, Gasoline Basics ? E10 94 octane vs. E.g. I have used Shell premium 91 almost exclusively in every gas engine that I have for several years. Always was a Chevron guy with all my previous cars, but started using Shell 91 (no ethanol) once I got my Civic Si. Royal Dutch Shell and Chevron are two of the world's largest oil companies, but if … If you have a high performance car, use the higher octane. :cry: I can't watch the video atm, but how do they compare in terms of real world knock prevention in a boosted vehicle? I've exclusively used Chevron pretty much my whole life, but this thread has convinced me to give Shell a chance. So basically, cars requiring premium fuel can fill up Chevron 91, which is $0.06/L cheaper than Shell's 91 premium fuel. It remains to see if this Shell nitrogen is any better or at least matches Techron. If your car is not tuned for 94 stick with 91 if your car requires premium. Outside of Chicagoland, 93 is offered at Shell and select other stations. Prior to going to stage 2 I think I used the stage 1 93 map and never had an issue on chev 94 either. i always fill up in the states. Guy tests Shell 91 and Chevron 94 to see which is better, a longtime argument between auto enthusiasts across BC In Canada, Shell 91 has no Ethanol (91E0). PetroCan 94 is always E10. Chevron has Techron, (I know it by another name), made by Oronite Division of Chevron Chemicals. Neither Shell nor Chevron contain ethanol. I dont think shell 91 has ethanol either. The difference will be negligible but I've always found shell 91 to be more stable under high load. Noticed recently that Chevron 94 (also no ethanol) is a few cents cheaper than Shell, but the car is tuned for 91 according to the manual. Both my wrx and tundra are tuned to 94 octane. Have been wondering the exact same things over the past few weeks. Petro-Canada. These additives keep you intake system clean, but any benefit is long term, all premium fuels from the international suppliers tend to have similar additives. I used to sell it to some of them. Started putting Shell premium with nitrogen in my 2000 Frontier 4x4, 6 cylinder. In the end for stock application they will all be fine. shell 91 nitro just got introduced here in kamloops. I seem to be getting more bad tanks of chev 94 lately. Shell V-Power® NiTRO+ has seven times the cleaning agents required to meet federal standards and removes an average of 70% of baked-in deposits left by lower-quality premium gasoline, starting with the very first tank. I wasn't driving the same way. Less than half the price, more freedom lol. I have a 2013 STI just flashed to cobb stage 1 91 octane. (I will leave the debates over Ethanol and winter gas aside.) Sticky accelerator off idle went away. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 19 of 19 Posts ... Cal, we are limited to 91 Octane. My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT! Octane rating of 94 recommended for cars where the utmost in performance and cleaning power is required. The only benefit I noticed when I switched from Shell V-Power to Chevron was with my Boxster. I gotta run to the airport and chevron is the closest station again. to Chevron 94. So based on the research Chevron 94(98RON) has less performance results than Shell 91(99RON). Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. Please update the thread with your findings. But this new 91 nitro has a 99 Ron rating whereas chevron 94 only has a 98 Ron rating. Esso) may be up to E10, depending on which refinery, time of year, etc. Petro Canada: 'most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. I have an older (99) JDM and I haven't got in my ECU to see what, if anything, it's tuned to/for/at all. RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense! Shell has a very similar additive, it may even be identical. Shell V-Power 91 vs BP 93. Joined: Jul 2003. I've Been a chevron fanboy. To combat it I tried going up to Petro-Canada’s (Suncor) 94 octane gas and that decreased the knocking significantly with Shell’s 91 gas having a little more knocking than the 94. If it were me I would go with Shell. Vancouver Impreza Club Forum -- VIC. ok I've used both and I saw absolutely no fucking difference. Shell V-Power 91 octane ethanol-free. Don't think Shell 91 nitro+ is cheaper than Chevron 94. 94 may be overkill if your car only asks for 91 (most likely the case if not a high performance model). The tuners over at the LT1 forum in the states said it's 'top tier' but not at the top of the top tier list and there was some loss of power compared to the Shell/Chevron counterparts. Shell Unleaded E10 has a minimum 94 octane rating and is designed to make your engine run more efficiently. Tuners at MNR told me put in Shell 91 when I took it in for a tune. https://www.revscene.net/forums/703573-shell-91-nitro-vs-chevron-94-a.html NOTE YOU HAVE TO GET PREMIUM GRADE TO GET HIGHER AMOUNTS OF NITROGEN CLEANER. Posts: 3,065. Shell Unleaded E10. Shell doesnt have 94 where I live. It's just top tier which means it has more detergents than non top tier fuel companies. I have used Chevron before also and haven't noticed any difference. shell 91 is the only one without ethanol too unless you're willing to fork out extra for chevron's 94. With 91, I would always back off when the knock light started flashing. Mobil 93 (a.k.a. but do try it … 93 is available at select Kum & Go locations. 87 vs 91 Octane Gas. Back in GA I always used Shell … If you want better performance but are knock limited you should look to spray meth or switch to e85....the latter probably unrealistic because of your location. Would love some info if someone is informed as I am pretty clueless when it comes to the complexities of fuel. I filled up two days ago and there was $0.19 bump compared to regular gas, $1.339 vs $1.529. 91 93 is widely available in Chicagoland. Too bad I just filled up yesterday but I guess next tank will be Chev 91 with the 10% Eth and see what ye old butt dyno says. Im thinking of going JDM. This is kind of an interesting read. 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